Between the Woodward thing and the Foley thing, my schadenfreude is running so high I can't comment on them right now. Just wanted to point you to a few more 9-11 conspiracy tidbits. The first is from Matt Taibbi , who has a follow-up on his smackdown of 9-11 conspiracy theorists. He now talks about the very relevant fact that although conspiracy theorists have their crazy little theories, none have been able to tie them together into a cohesive narrative:
"there is not -- at least not that I could find -- a single document anywhere that lays out a single, concrete theory of what happened, who ordered what and when they ordered it, and why. There obviously is such a theory, but it has to be pieced together by implication, by paying attention to the various assertions of 9/11 lore (the towers were mined, the Pentagon was really hit by a cruise missile, etc.) and then assembling them later on into one single story. But the funny thing is, when you put together all of those disparate theories, you get the dumbest story since Roman Polanski's Pirates.
"The specifics vary, but the basic gist of what They Say Happened goes something like this:
A group of power-hungry neocons, led by Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Bush and others and organizationally represented by groups like the Project for the New American Century, seeks to bring about a "Pearl-Harbor-like event" that would accelerate a rightist revolution, laying the political foundation for invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Your basic Reichstag fire scenario, logical enough so far. Except in this story, the Reichstag fire is an immensely complicated media hoax; the conspirators plot to topple the World Trade Center and pin a series of hijackings on a group of Sunni extremists with alleged ties to Al Qaeda. How do they topple the Trade Center? Well, they make use of NORAD's expertise in flying remote-control aircraft and actually fly two such remote-control aircraft into the Towers (in another version of the story, they conspire with Al Qaeda terrorists to actually hijack the planes), then pass the planes off as commercial jetliners in the media. But it isn't the plane crashes that topple the buildings, but bombs planted in the Towers that do the trick.
For good measure -- apparently to lend credence to the hijacking story -- they then fake another hijacking/crash in the Pentagon, where there actually is no plane crash at all but instead a hole created by a cruise missile attack, fired by a mysterious "white jet" that after the attack circles the White House for some time, inspiring the attention of Secret Service agents who point at it curiously from the ground (apparently these White House Secret Service agents were not in on the plot, although FBI agents on scene at Ground Zero and in Shanksville and elsewhere were).
Lastly, again apparently to lend weight to the whole hijacking cover story, they burn a big hole in the ground in Pennsylvania and claim that a jet went down there, crashed by a bunch of brave fictional civilians who fictionally storm the fictional plane cabin. The real-life wife of one of the fictional heroes, Lisa Beamer, then writes a convincingly self-serving paean/memoir to her dead husband, again lending tremendous verisimilitude to the hijacking story. These guys are good!"
The second piece is a transcript of a recent Democracy Now! show between the creators of the 9-11 conspiracy film 'Loose Change' and the authors of a new book, 'Debunking 9-11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Hold Up to the Facts', who are the editors of the very non-political Popular Mechanics magazine. I have to say, the Pop Mech ones come out of this looking like the sane ones. Check it out here.
Now, I'll say it again... I don't buy the official story, and I am certain that there was a bit of willful negligence on the part of BushCo. But they are too stupid to pull off the things these conspiracy theorists believe, and the amount of coordination, as well as willingness that they would need from many gov't agencies simply could not happen, as well as the fact that in 5 years, not one person involved hasn't come forward. Hey, I hate Bush, too, I'm just not ready to let that hatred destroy my critical thinking skills. Enjoy.










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The "very non-political" Popular Mechanics?
The editor in charge of the article that supposedly dubunked the 9/11 conspiracy theories is the cousin of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff.
That's news to me. As one who reads the magazine occasionaly, I still stand by my statement regarding its apolitcal nature of its content. And, it's not like what they put forth take a huge stretch of the imagination, unlike many of the 9-11 conspiracy theories. And the conspiracy guys still haven't been able to tie it all together, either.
“Seismic Proof – 9/11 Was An Inside Job (Updated Version II)”
Link: http://www.studyof911.com/articles/mirrored/craigfurlong/
By Craig T. Furlong & Gordon Ross, Scholars for 9/11 Truth: http://www.st911.org
The US Government, incriminated by its own facts, the perfect evidence—how ironic.
Summary:
News Tip: A real 9/11 smoking gun…that no one can debunk (these are facts, not theory).
Airplane “Impact” Times: Incriminating Evidence of 9/11 Coverup & Complicity
The official times for plane "impact" [precise to the second] as declared by the US Government, from both the 9/11 Commission and from NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), are different and yet both are true and accurate times. What can this factual contradiction mean? Looking exclusively at WTC1, there is found an indisputable causal link:
One World Trade, September 11, 2001
American Airlines Flight 11 “impact” time:
8:46:30 UTC, per LDEO seismic data (National Institute of Standards and Technology, 2005)
8:46:40 UTC, per FAA last primary radar contact (9/11 Commission Final Report, 2004)
Q- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event that occurred 10 seconds before the actual air crash?
A- The only possibility is huge explosions, as corroborated by many witnesses at the time.
Q- Who caused these explosions before the plane hit?
Notes:
In 2004, the 9/11 Commission avoided addressing the earlier seismic time (which had been attributed in error by Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, originally in 2001 as plane “impact”).
In 2005, NIST avoided addressing the 9/11 Commission’s later time for the aircraft’s actual impact.
Both the 9/11 Commission and NIST avoided addressing the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the sub-basements before the plane crashed.
Summary:
This precision data has yet to be refuted. It is from the two highest governmental entities charged with looking into what happened on 9/11. Both declared these times as accurate, and in doing so corroborate William Rodriguez and the many witnesses the morning of 9/11 who experienced explosions in the sub-basements of WTC1 before American Airlines Flight 11 struck the building. This is indicting evidence of governmental coverup, and thus implication of complicity.
Demand a new, truly independent, criminal investigation of 9/11, this time a real one.
Justice waits...{and there is no statute of time limitation on murder}
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